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gpg: Good signature from "Matthew John Toseland (Toad) <toad@amphibian.dyndns.org>"
Oh one other thing: It would be really nice if we could connect directly
to nodes on the same LAN (or PC!). The main issue here is determining
whether we ARE on the same LAN; we can find our LAN address very easily.
Any ideas?
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 08:15:35PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:40:06PM +0200, Thomas King wrote:
> > Dear Freenet Hackers,
> > I occasionally use Freenet and I am highly interested in this technology (not
> > only because of my studies). However, during my usage I experienced a few
> > network problems due to NATs.
> >
> > So, I think about to apply for Google's Sommer of Code with the following
> > proposal:
> > - Adding STUN-support (RFC 3489) to Freenet to automatically collect NAT
> > related information. These information will be used to automatically
> > configure Freenet.
>
> We already have basic NAT hopping support (including on network IP
> address detection); more will be coming... The main remaining problem is
> the combination of NATs and dynamic IPs.
> Proposed measures in the near future:
> - Remembering the last detected address for each node across restarts
> (separately from its claimed address).
> - ARKs. If you can connect to one node, it can tell your other peers
> what your new address is via an Address Resolution Key or similar
> mechanism.
> Possible future measures:
> - UP&P - but I think it will only help a small minority.
> - Rendezvous transports (Email, DNS, IM, etc).
>
> Now, with regards to STUN, this is a mechanism whereby you can contact a
> well known server to discover your own IP address, and those of any
> NATs, in order to do hole punching? Note that if you can contact ANY of
> your peers, you can discover your IP anyway, tell your other peers what
> your IP is, and connect to them... Nonetheless, STUN support does sound
> useful (provided that STUN servers are widely deployed, that STUN clients
> are widely deployed, and that the way Freenet uses it will not
> distinguish it from other STUN clients). Is it feasible to do this in
> Java? Does it require raw packets? And is there already a (java) library
> out there to do it? (Less duplicated code => less bugs)!
>
> > - Adding UPnP-support to Freenet to handle UPnP-enabled NAT devices for a more
> > convenient user experience.
>
> The big issue with UP&P is that it is far from universal. It is blocked
> by default by Windows XP's firewall (from SP2 onwards), and it is often
> turned off... is there a realistic chance of UP&P support helping more
> than a few percent of our users?
> >
> > What do you think about my thoughts?
> >
> > Is any of the developers available to be my mentor?
>
> I will gladly answer any questions any would-be freenet developer has on
> how the code works in order to assist them in building useful features. If
> you want to apply for Google SoC then by all means do, but it looks like
> there will be some competition.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Thomas King
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