On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Evan Daniel <evanbd@???> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:39 PM, MyTwoCents <m2c@???> wrote:
> > gpg: invalid clearsig header
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: block_filter: 1st length byte missing
gpg: cleartext signature without data
gpg: no signature found
gpg: the signature could not be verified.
Please remember that the signature file (.sig or .asc)
should be the first file given on the command line.
> > I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that
> > since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets
> > SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also
> >
> > I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have
> > been trying out FMS. I have to say that while the idea is a good one, has
> > a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of
> > announcing new identities has problems.
> >
> > 1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed.
> > Because: "You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the
> > SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust.", I cannot post
> > messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one:
> >
> > Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck
> > From: The Seeker@cI~w2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4V2Gd4
> > Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 -0000
> > Message-ID:
> > <D307C15C-56CD-4CC4-9822-3EAF1D0CAC8F@cIw2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4
> > V2Gd4>
> >
> > That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved
> > by a program than a human.
> >
> > Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have to
> > say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true. Of course, I also
> > think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for
> > people with vision impairments.
> >
> > The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to no
> > trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in use
> > now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been "solving"
> > (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better
> > part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced.
> >
> > Which brings me to #2.
> >
> > How about some feedback?
> >
> > Specifically, when I "solve" a captcha, how about telling me if I got it
> > right or not? My thought, present captchas one at a time. Allow user to
> > fill in and submit. If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them with
> > a new one. If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them with
> > a new one.
> >
> > This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint,
> > almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually
> > got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal. There's absolutely
> > ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game!
> >
> > Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the
> > absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably
> > that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm
> > going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him eat
> > them while I beat him to death with my monitor!
> >
> > Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here? Good!
> >
> > WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!?
> >
> > The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted
> > anyway to make a point.
> >
> > - --
> > My public keys can be found on my freenet site:
> > SSK@TEx6TiaPeszpV4AFw3ToutDb49EPAgM/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html
> > (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull)
> > and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E
> > Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E
> > I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by
> > Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org
> > Frost: MyTwoCents@Z+59LNK9NhMvxewYggENU4Ww50s On the 0.5 Freenet board
> >
> >
> >
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>
> I tried to read your flog but couldn't; your SSK is malformed.
>
> There are ways other than captchas to announce yourself. If I knew
> what your identity was I'd be happy to add it, as you're obviously
> human.
>
> You could post a patch with better captchas. As the initiator of the
> thread you referenced, I would be in favor. I've got some code I'm
> playing with, but it's not there yet. Working on other people's code
> always feels more like work than fun, and the same is true of C++, so
> it probably won't get posted for a while yet.
>
> In the meantime I've modified the FMS source so that my node will post
> easier versions of the same captchas. If this creates a spam problem,
> I apologize; somebody tell me if I'm announcing all the spammers and
> don't notice :D
>
> I won't post the changes I made. They're trivial and anyone else can
> make similar ones, and besides having more variety is probably not a
> bad thing. I encourage people to do the same, provided they're
> willing to pay attention in case they end up announcing spammers.
>
> Evan Daniel
>
Addendum 1: The same offer is open to anyone competent to write an
email that gets past my spam filter. Include your FMS Id and I'll
announce it with a trust rating of 50. Offer valid until someone
decides to be an asshat and abuse it.
Addendum 2: There is a potential identity leak if you run customized
easier captchas and have multiple identities. I believe I have a
solution locally, but you're on your own on this one.
Evan Daniel
