Re: [freenet-dev] Post 0.7 idea: off-grid darknet!

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Author: Evan Daniel
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To: Discussion of development issues
Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Post 0.7 idea: off-grid darknet!
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ian Clarke <ian.clarke@???> wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Matthew Toseland
> >> 2. Most or all Freenet apps assume a few seconds latency on requests
> >> (Frost, Fproxy, etc), yet the latency with the sneakernet would be
> >> measured in days. Freenet's existing apps would be useless here.
> >
> > Not true IMHO. A lot of existing Freenet apps deal with long term requests,
> > which would work very nicely with sneakernet.
>
> Such as? FMS is pretty slow even with multi-second requests, do you
> really think it would be useful with multi-day requests? I can't
> think of a single Freenet app that would be useful over a transport
> with multi-day latencies, it would be insane.


I'm pretty sure FMS is slow because it has a list of a few hundred
identities to poll for messages, and it only polls 10-20 at a time.
On a sneakernet you'd send all the poll requests at once. There's no
reason the delay on receiving a message couldn't be roughly the
one-way latency of the path.

Downloading any sort of large media file can take days on Freenet
*right now*. People still do it. What do I care whether the 4 day
download delay is routing delay or bandwidth limit?

The major change needed would be a way to request not the specific SSK
block, but the SSK, whatever CHK it happens to redirect to, and any
CHK blocks needed to decode the result -- plus a way to prevent that
being a DoS attack (tit-for-tat?).

Evan Daniel